Blackjack at The Palazzo and The Venetian. A little more research for my trip to Las Vegas brings me to blackjack. Blackjack on the Las Vegas strip over the past couple of years has gone from paying out 3:2 to 6:5 for blackjack in many casinos. For example; the Harrah’s properties seem to exclusively only pay out 6:5 on blackjack. In the 3:2 blackjack game, the house edge, for player playing perfect basic strategy, is in the 0.5% range. That means for every $100 wagered, they take in, on average, $0.50. With 6:5 blackjack, that edge shoots up to almost 2%! So now you can expect to contribute upwards of $2 per $100 wagered to the house coffers.

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Another potential downside is Stadium Blackjack pays 6-to-5, rather than 3-to-2. Then again, that’s true of the majority of blackjack games on the Las Vegas Strip. Also, serious blackjack players dislike six deck, continuous shuffling machines. Card counting is impossible with such machines. It is worth venetian blackjack 6 to 5 looking into to have a opportunity to win the large cash prizes these events provide.This fall marks the first full NFL season with venetian blackjack 6 to 5 legal sports betting available in Pennsylvania and a dozen other states., valor manos texas holdem poker, tips dan trik bermain blackjack, sands. Serious local blackjack players know that the “vast majority of ourStation Casinos blackjack games are 3:2 blackjack. We’re basically the opposite of the strip. We deal almost exclusively 3:2 blackjack, whereas on the strip you are getting a 6:5 game unless you are betting $100 or more,” said Bill. It’s a question that’s long-plagued blackjack players: How can casinos pay 6-to-5 for blackjack? For many years in Las Vegas casinos, blackjacks paid 3-to-2. It was the standard. That means if you made a $10 bet, a blackjack would pay $15. In a 6-to-5 game, however, that same $10 bet will get you $12 for a blackjack.

Ten year old Motley fool post :
If I were running Ameristar, I'd consider doing the following: Replace the atrocious 6:5 game with a couple of brand-building 3:2 single-deck games. Market that you have the real thing. It doesn't have to have the best rules: Hit on soft 17, allow doubling only on 10 and 11, and take a 0.35% or so edge. If you keep the tables full, forcing a shuffle after every round, you won't have to worry about anybody beating it. And once in a while, when the game is shorthanded and beatable, don't worry about it: You're investing a couple of dollars at a couple of tables to have the best game in town.
http://www.fool.com/investing/small-cap/2004/12/14/when-competition-hurt-the-game.aspx
Yes, is has been 10 years ! How is that boycott working out ? ? ?6-5 as the standard multi-deck blackjack standard is not too many years away. It's a very easy way to cover rising expenses when the economy is not growing enough to keep up.
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If 6 to 5 blackjack is not available in your casino, fear not. It soon will be. Including new states like PA, just as soon as the honeymoon is over.
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All it would take is one celebrity in front of a few million people just dropping the line 'don't play 6:5 blackjack, they're ripping you off' and every ploppy in the world would suddenly hate the game.

Ya know, I doubt this is even true.
Over on another message board I once referred to people who play 6:5 blackjack as 'idiots' and that was met by a plethora of responses such as 'I play 6:5 blackjack! Am I an idiot?!' Their reasoning was that they like to play $5 games or they 'don't want to walk far to find a 3:2 game.'
Even people who know what a bad thing 6:5 is still play it. There is just no curing this disease.

Over on another message board I once referred to people who play 6:5 blackjack as 'idiots' and that was met by a plethora of responses such as 'I play 6:5 blackjack! Am I an idiot?!'

The correct response to this is simply 'Yes, you are an idiot.' If they chime in about walking to find the game ask them this.. If the blackjack game at the front door was play $10 a hand, and if you win you win $1 (no matter what), if you lose you lose your $10. Would you walk to the middle of the casino for a normal game now?
I feel like it's still barely reversible if there was any kind of big leverage against 6:5, but there doesn't seem to be any.. which is what will probably make the 6:5 takeover unstoppable =/.

All it would take is one celebrity in front of a few million people just dropping the line 'don't play 6:5 blackjack, they're ripping you off' and every ploppy in the world would suddenly hate the game.

They'd still play it for the side bets. The house wouldn't offer the really juicy* sidebets on the 3:2 games.
*14% HE.' All it would take is one celebrity in front of a few million people just dropping the line 'don't play 6:5 blackjack, they're ripping you off' and every ploppy in the world would suddenly hate the game. '
WRONG. Ploppies play for the 5, not the 6. As long as a casino offers 6/5 on the lowest limit tables, ploppies will play. PERIOD.
Why don't people understand that ? ? ?Back a half dozen years ago, when I was still located on the east coast, playing mainly AC (PA had casinos but not yet table games), I feared this very subject, that between 6-5 BJ and CSM's, blackjack games would all become unplayable at just the time my professional blackjack career was kicking into high gear.
I relocated to Vegas 5 years ago, and my fears just have not been realized here in Vegas during that time. Yes, there was a much talked about change @ Venetian earlier this year to 6-5 at low limit games, but for the most part 6-5 only exists in one area here in Vegas, the strip (mostly Caesar's entertainment properties) low limit games, where players are more interested in drinking and partying than blackjack conditions. Elsewhere in Vegas, where players are a little more educated, blackjack games even at low limits all remain 3-2. And during my time here, I have seen several places even roll back from 6-5 to 3-2, like 'the D' downtown, a few years back when the switched from Fitzgerald's to 'the D'.
As for CSM, these too are regulated to low limit games and at just a handful of properties. There are actually fewer CSM tables now than when I moved here 5 years ago. It is my understanding that these machines must be leased, which is fairly expensive and when you combine that with the downtime and maintenance costs, it just doesn't make sense financially, as the expense outweighs the benefit of less shuffle down time.

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In the last month, one property in my regular rotation even added last surrender. :) So at least here in Vegas, and especially if you get off the touristy strip, I just have not seen much movement towards those worse conditions that I feared. Probably the biggest negative has been the movement towards side bets, with many BJ games now comprising of some sort of side bet with a big house edge, which slows the games down considerably for me.
Now, again, I am speaking of only Vegas, I can't speak for other areas. The other jurisdiction that I am somewhat familiar with is PA, having moved from there and still return there twice a year to play and visit friends. As most know, Pa has some of the better rules in the country with S17 and late surrender. Many have thought this would only be temporary and conditions would begin to tighten, and maybe they will, but so far Pa gaming has resisted allowing these changes even though they have been petitioned by different casinos. If they won't even allow casinos to have h17 blackjack, which they recently denied again, then 6-5 seems fairly far off down the road.

Certainly not. Aside from the fact that he undoubtedly has other functions to perform there he surely can not comment upon any aspect of his employer's business.

I was thinking more in terms of him being able to point us to an 'official' source or statement to clarify.

Strange. Did you do that 100 a hand BJ for their magic four hours?
Who did you approach prior to checking out? They have a credit desk next to their lowest craps table and its best to 'drop by' and speak to whoever is on duty there awhile before checking out if you don't have an actual host.

Yes to both questions. The 'duty' hostess at the credit desk didn't elaborate on what the computer said about my play, only that I didn't qualify for anything. Based on previous trips I wasn't particularly surprised (but, hey, I can hope..).

Does anybody know if they are still not sending mailers to low to mid level players? I am going to be going to Vegas in November, and plan on playing some green chip blackjack. I would like to stay at the Venetian, but I would like to get some mailers for my play where I stay (I have only been to Vegas once, and barely gambled since I was there a short time and mainly wanted to see the sights.)

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Don't play blackjack at the Venetian. It's all 6:5, except for very high-limit tables.
At the green chip level you will have no problems finding 3:2 games all over the strip, other than Venetian/Palazzo. You will probably have to settle for H17 though, unless you are ok with $50 minimum.
If you are ok with $50 miniumum, several MGM properties have a good 6-deck game. I doubt that you will get great offers, but you can get your room comped at that level, and probably your food too, depending how much you play.I played 60/hand PGP (minimum; I go up from there when I win) for 14 hours over 3 days, over 2 months ago. I've never heard from them. Don't know if that's long enough, but I would have expected to hear from them by now if I were going to.I knew about the Venetian blackjack dropping to 6:5, but the blackjack survey here says there is a double deck game with a $25 minimum that I was hoping actually existed.. If not, then that would be the final nail in the coffin.
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I played 60/hand PGP (minimum; I go up from there when I win) for 14 hours over 3 days, over 2 months ago. I've never heard from them. Don't know if that's long enough, but I would have expected to hear from them by now if I were going to.

Thanks for the info. My fiance has stayed at the Venetian before, and she says the hotel is amazing. I would like to have it as a sort of 'home base,' but but $150 a night with no chance of it being lowered and no good green chip blackjack would kill it for me.
Thank you guys for the prompt replies!

I knew about the Venetian blackjack dropping to 6:5, but the blackjack survey here says there is a double deck game with a $25 minimum that I was hoping actually existed.. If not, then that would be the final nail in the coffin.

I haven't actually been there to check it out, but I thought I remembered reading that all tables other than a few at $200 min or higher would be 6:5. It's possible that I am mis-remembering though -- does someone who knows for sure want to comment?
I do know that the Mandalay Bay has DD games out on the main floor at $25 minimum. They are H17; other than that the rules are good. The house edge is going to be around 0.5%. They have the same game with S17 in the high limit rooms of just about every MGM casino. It's usually $100 or $200 min; I think I've seen it at $50 once (at NYNY)

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